[Rasch] [adultdevel] Re: Reflections on late ego stages, MHC and dialectical reasoning

Michael Lamport Commons commons at tiac.net
Thu May 19 06:18:03 EST 2011


Using Cook-Grueter's scoring scheme.

My Best,

Michael Lamport Commons, Ph.D.
Assistant Clinical Professor

Department of Psychiatry
Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
Harvard Medical School
234 Huron Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138-1328

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On 5/18/2011 3:28 PM, Bond, Trevor wrote:
> Depends how the items are scored...
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> On 19/05/11 4:51 AM, "Michael Lamport Commons" <commons at tiac.net> wrote:
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>     It would be nice to see a Rasch scaling of the items on the WSCT
>     or at least the scores to each item x the item.
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>      The Rasch list may have a way of doing this.  Let us say there
>     are x items.  To each item there are open ended answers that then
>     get scored for stage ranging from 5 to 13.  How does one get a
>     Rasch score for item?  Just the normal way?
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>     My Best,
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>     Michael Lamport Commons, Ph.D.
>     Assistant Clinical Professor
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>     Department of Psychiatry
>     Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
>     Harvard Medical School
>     234 Huron Avenue
>     Cambridge, MA 02138-1328
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>     Telephone   (617) 497-5270
>     Facsimile   (617) 491-5270
>     Cellular    (617) 320–0896
>     Commons at tiac.net
>     http://dareassociation.org/
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>      On 5/18/2011 1:23 PM, Thomas Jordan wrote:
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>         15 maj 2011 kl. 20.52 skrev Michael Lamport Commons:
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>             What I think you are proposing meets transitivity and
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>         Dear Michael,
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>         I believe your orientation is strongly nomothetical and
>         deductive, where the development of stringent theory is a
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>         Loevinger's framework is a result of inductive research. Such
>         research is strong in identifying new patterns in empirical
>         data and generating new hypotheses, but generally weak in
>         theoretical stringency and often also weak in providing
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>         I am also more inclined towards openended inductive research.
>         If I see an intriguing pattern in the data, I get interested
>         and want to explore more, and perhaps eventually finding an
>         explanation for the pattern. It does not trouble me at all
>         that the interesting patterns found in interviews or other
>         data don't seem to be amenable to stringent theory building. I
>         still am interested in trying to make sense of them.
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>         So again, I think we will have to conclude that the interests
>         and frameworks in this field sometimes diverge so
>         fundamentally that we will not reach agreement on what
>         questions to ask, and what kinds of answers are legitimate and
>         interesting. But the conversation is useful anyway :-).
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>         / Thomas
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