[Rasch] Hierarchical Rasch Modeling

Wenchung psywcw at gmail.com
Sat Jun 8 10:29:30 EST 2013

Dear all, 

I think the reviewer may be concerned of measurement error in the person measures that are produced in 1st step. When these person measures are directly plugged into the next stage analysis, their measurement errors are ignored, which will underestimate the standard error of the next stage estimates. People often use "plausible values" to resolve with this problem. Please refer to the Pisa technical report or the relevant literature of plausible values. 

As I know, mplus or winbugs can do multilevel Rasch analysis. 


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Robert Hess <Robert.Hess at ASU.edu> 於 2013年6月8日 7:35 寫道:

> Stuart:
> First, I disagree with your reviewer. Mike is absolutely correct, if you do
> everything at one time all you do is compound any felonies that might've
> been committed in level I to the point that when you reach level III either
> nothing works or everything works because you missed any possible sources of
> unexplained error by attempting to do everything in a single pass. And you
> are correct, HLM will not do what you are doing nor will it do what the
> reviewer seems to be requesting.
> My best suggestion for you, is to layout the argument detailing clearly why
> you chose to do the three-step process (as you did in your earlier note) and
> find another way to express the sentiment laid out by Mike. Sometimes you're
> dealing with a reviewer who really doesn't understand the model you are
> employing and you have to find a logical explanation why you are sticking to
> your original model - you address this to the editor, but as an explanation,
> not as a failure on the part of the reviewer to understand your model (which
> I will bet dollars to dimes) is what happened.
> Good luck.
> Bob Hess
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rasch-bounces at acer.edu.au [mailto:rasch-bounces at acer.edu.au] On Behalf
> Of Mike Linacre
> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:56 PM
> To: rasch at acer.edu.au
> Subject: Re: [Rasch] Hierarchical Rasch Modeling
> Stuart and folks:
> The reviewer seems to be addressing the wrong issue: "it would be more
> efficient ..."
> Surely concern should focus on "it would be more accurate ..."
> In science in general, the more accurate approach is "one thing at a time".
> This approach is your 3-level approach where findings at each level can be
> verified before the next level is attempted. In the combined approach,
> inaccuracies at the first level are likely to be invisible by the third
> level producing undetectable distortions in the findings.
> Mike L.
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